God is not a God of confusion! The first defense of the doctrine of the Trinity was in the early 3rd century by the early church father Tertullian. This man created the Trinitarian doctrine.
Majority of the people found issue with it because it was man made. This false doctrine started by a man and is like a little yeast and you can see it has found its way into many churches.
Satan is tricky. We believe We dont know I have never met the man jesus Therefore i believe But i have laid my eyes on the creators master pieces you and i Therefore i know our Father exists. Salaam alaikum, brother, fellow Son of Abraham, I appreciate your openness. I agree with the author here. The Holy Spirit was a similar Son of God, as we all are, but with a special mission. The confusion in English, pointed out by the author, is not confusing in the original Greek.
Also, like him, a. Islam continues to threaten peace and democracy our mission in the world for over years. You are a Son of Abraham, and I recognize that.
My paternal grandmother was Arab, but my maternal side has strong Jewish roots. I choose not to follow the aggressively destructive path of the Arab, but instead the Jewish traditions, like Jesus did.
I invite you to do likewise. Jesus is God in human also God in the Spiritual realm. Romans 14How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? May every one go through these verses slowly.. Revelation ,13 Revelation ,8 and 1Timothy The word Son does not mean offspring…it is capitalized because it means image… Jesus, the Son of God, hence, the image of God….
Not, Jesus the son of God, meaning his child. When concerning the topic of the trinity 1 Corinthians Furthermore, during the era of Constantine the great Arius, a priest from Alexandria, Egypt and Athanasius, a deacon also from Alexandria having opposing views sparked a controversy and divide in the church that prompted concern in Constantine. This historical fact should provide everyone with food for thought.
Few understand that the idea of a trinity was adopted several centuries after the Bible was completed. So one should ask himself why all the confusion if God is not the author of confusion? Now think about the major shift in the history of Christianity if the vote would have fallen in favor of Arius who believed Jesus was created as the Son of God and God the only true God with no one else with such greatness to be considered one in a trinitarian sense.
Was Jesus an actual human? Has God ever been human? Study St. John, then the three letters of John—then go back and do it all again. As you study and pray, Jesus himself will reveal all to you. Yeshua said, When you abide in me, I will abide in you and we will be one as my father and I are one and we will be one together. Yeshua is saying when any 2 or more are in agreement You are either for me or against me.
When a man and a woman are to become one flesh same thing in their truest intentions they walk in the unity of oneness of mind.
Sorry but Jesus did not resurrect in human form as you are conveying here. He resurrected in a spiritual body as an example to us of what our future resurrection will be, and our form in eternity will be like. Jesus had the capability to appear in the physical after His resurrection.
Him eating with the disciples and allowing Thomas to literally touch the crucifixion nail holes is proof of His ability to appear in the physical. But, He also was able to move thru walls and appear out of nowhere. This is a characteristic of what one who is in a spiritual body can do also. Our future eternal life will be in a spiritual body as described in scripture and set by example by Jesus Himself. Agreed Bradford. So God and Jesus are one. Ex 3 God said Iam Jesus said I am. Well maybe not!
He has the scares on his hands and feet still and always will as a reminder. He sent the comforter his mother the breath of the spirit, for us after he left to wait his return. Yes he is as we shall be, better and it may be entirely different and may not be all we think we know I think is. We will be given a perfect spiritual and fiscal body if we are saved.
What kind of body that could entirely be is truly unknown.. A Spiritual body is not a spirit body. Job said that though the Lord slay me yet in my flesh I shall see God.
Consider Ezekiel valley of dry bones which are resurrected in the flesh. And you yourself mentioned Jesus resurected body with wounded flesh. I agree; further unless you are born of the spirit you will not fully understand because revelation is of God who reveals himself to us once we obey his instructions he gave his Apostoles to give ro us. Please read and study 1 Timothy We are now human beings and we will then be the full expression of our humanness.
But as you stated, unlike us, Jesus is fully God and fully man forever. I am afraid that you have quoted the scriptures regarding the fatherhood of God out of context. True, John gives the right to become the children of God to all those who received Jesus. See Matthew It is absurd to state that the Doctrine of Trinity is a subsequent teaching , thereby implying that it is not in the Bible. Reading Matthew , a thought occurred: God spoke a sentence? Words people heard and understood?
Or are we in metaphors and again? Jesus did claim to be God he said before Abraham was, I am. The disciples called him Lord. Eloheem herfers to plural in Gen. Let us make man in our image. We are in the image of God, we are also triune. One person body soul and spirit. John who was for told of preparing the way for the lord in the desert. This scripture proves that Jesus was God. John Father sent me. John Father is greater than I am.
Jesus did bot claim to be GOD. I have been told that every person is a liar. Everything was written over the last couple thousand years. How much of this is the truth? What proof do you have? Alpha, Man is not a Liar as you were told.
Man is a sinner but he has been given chance to repent from sin from God so that he can do good. Whoever told you such evil statement is not of God. The word of God the Bible is truth and God wrote thru his inspired men and women many years ago. John 3vs John 1vs I Timothy If you misuse that breath now just remember it will go back to the one who sent it in you the Supreme authority, our God.
Accordingly, Jesus was one person with two natures, one divine and one human. The divinity of Jesus Christ was united to his body and soul the entire time he was dead and in the tomb. This is why his body did not rot and his soul could overcome the powers of Hell. It was necessary that the same body of Christ be reunited with the same soul. Had he resurrected in a spiritual body as Bradford suggests in an earlier comment , then his resurrection would not have been a true resurrection.
In Islam it is beloved that Jesus is God prophet sent for the people to do mercy and right things in society. He was taken by God. Jesus is a person human. God the Father is not a person human. He is a Spirit Holy Ghost. God is our Father. That is WHO he is. God is a Spirit. That is WHAT he is. Jesus was conceived by his Father the Holy Ghost.
Jesus is the second Adam. There is no three person Trinity. Just God in Christ and Christ in you. Since the Father and the Son have existed and loved each other eternally, the Holy Spirit has existed eternally. Completely God and completely man.
I do acknowledge that not everyone here is Catholic or even Christian for that matter. These are characteristics of MAN. As you can see, he is using us against ourselves. Remember also in the garden of Eden, he used the snake. Unlike Adam who has never been a child before and so does not understand what it means to cry.
Christ is God and He must not necessary say it categorically or claim it openly, He is. Christ wants us to identify Him by ourselves if indeed we have understanding.
Take your picture and tell me you are seeing your brother, so if God is holding Christ image or picture , He will be seeing Himself. Christ is both the door that leads to the sheepfolds as well as the Shepherd, Every thing was created by Him and for Him.
He is our merciful and faithful High Priest, interceding for us at the right hand of the Father. At the name of Jesus, everything in heaven and earth and below the earth must bow. He has existed as part of the Trinity with God the Father and the Holy Spirit before our world existed — from infinity — and He continues to exist into infinity.
All things were made through Him. Jesus is Alpha and Omega, first and last, beginning and the end. Did Jesus claim to be God? In John 5, Jesus was criticized for healing the man at the pool of Bethesda on the Sabbath. If You are the Christ, tell us plainly. Is Jesus omnipotent? As part of the Trinity, Jesus is fully God, and therefore all-powerful.
What about when Jesus walked this earth? Was He all-powerful then? Jesus is the same yesterday, today, and forever Hebrews Jesus retained all His divine attributes — including being all-powerful. In Philippians 2, Paul is encouraging the church to consider others as more important than themselves.
He then gives the example of Jesus as an ultimate example of humility , saying we should have the same attitude as Him. It is rather like the tale of a king who left his palace, dressed in ordinary clothing, and walked among his people as a common person.
Was the king still king? Did he still have all his power? Of course, he did! He just chose to lay aside his royal garments and travel incognito. Jesus, the King of the universe, took on the form of a servant, and humbled Himself — even to the point of death. Philippians He walked this earth as a humble person from a poor family in obscure Nazareth. He experienced hunger and thirst and pain, he was weary after long days of traveling and ministering to hordes of people. And yet, He also walked on water, commanded the wind and waves, healed whole villages of all their sick, raised people from the dead, and on two different occasions fed thousands of people from one meager lunch.
When Peter attempted to defend Jesus at the time of His arrest, Jesus told him to put his sword away, reminding Peter that the Father could put more than twelve legions of angels at His disposal.
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